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  • 1.  Notified Body selection

    Posted 20-Oct-2016 11:34
    Hello RAPS community,

    Has any of you worked with Dekra as a notified body? Would you mind
    sharing some feedback with me via a private message? Any other
    recommendations would be helpful too. I am familiar with BSI, Intertek
    and G-MED.

    Thank you in advance!


  • 2.  RE: Notified Body selection

    Posted 21-Oct-2016 22:04

    DEKRA is Ok, but like all NBs ... they all have their own bureaucracies and eccentricities J.

    Art

     






  • 3.  RE: Notified Body selection

    Posted 22-Oct-2016 11:38
    Virginia,

    If you have been working with a few NBs, you will find it good to work with Dekra.

    Generally speaking, there have been some differences (minor to significant) how NBs enforce ERs. 

    Action to Take: Please talk to them and see how their process works (how responsive or how they handle disagreements, etc.)

    Thank you.

    s/ David
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  • 4.  RE: Notified Body selection

    Posted 23-Oct-2016 19:30

    Thank you for introducing this topic,

    For a class IIa and IIb device, are the number and type of audits standardized?  I believe that I am being over-audited by my NB (5 audits in 1 year) and am looking for something manageable for a water filter (dialysis and hospital water filtration).  My sales are extremely low in EU.  Any recommendations are helpful.

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    Hollie Johnson
    Director of Quality and Regulatory
    Nephros, Inc.
    River Edge, NJ
    USA
    hollie@nephros.com
    732-403-4681



  • 5.  RE: Notified Body selection

    Posted 24-Oct-2016 12:59

    They are standardized based on the size of the facility, what products you make and what activity is performed at the site. Thus, a large site of over 1000 people would have more audit days than one with 10. Similarly, if you make sterile devices you will have a every other year microbiology audit, which those who don't do sterilization will not. Additionally, under the MDD, all of your technical files must be audited on a rotating basis - usually every 3 years. Thus, if you have a lot of technical files, you will have more audit days compared to someone with fewer.

    Most of the NBs have a copy of this matrix, but it is rather complex. I can see a situation where if you have a large site and a number of products, you would have a lot of audit days, even if sales are small. This could become even bigger if you are a supplier to other medical device companies, as you could get hit with additional "unannounced" audits as a supplier.

    g-

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    Ginger Glaser RAC
    Vice-President, Quality and Regulatory Affairs
    Maplewood MN
    United States



  • 6.  RE: Notified Body selection

    Posted 23-Oct-2016 19:31

    Thank you for introducing this topic,

    For a class IIa and IIb device, are the number and type of audits standardized?  I believe that I am being over-audited by my NB (5 audits in 1 year) and am looking for something manageable for a water filter (dialysis and hospital water filtration).  My sales are extremely low in EU.  Any recommendations are helpful.

    ------------------------------
    Hollie Johnson
    Director of Quality and Regulatory
    Nephros, Inc.
    River Edge, NJ
    USA
    hollie@nephros.com
    732-403-4681