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  • 1.  State-of-the-Art

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    Posted 20-Sep-2019 10:32
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    ​Our NB is no longer accepting that our products comply with European Harmonized standards.  They have mandated in their annual tech file review that our product comply with the latest versions of all applicable standards.  This is in contradiction of the MDD and seems to be enforcing some kind of new MDR regulation on us early.

    Are other people experiencing this too?  If so, what is your process for updating products to the latest versions of all applicable standards?


  • 2.  RE: State-of-the-Art

    Posted 20-Sep-2019 19:12

    This is not related to the MDR, but results from the broken harmonization process in the EU. Many harmonized standards are obsolete, and have been for years. I don't see a resolution for a long time.

    The MDD Annex I(2) says, "The solutions adopted by the manufacturer for the design and construction of the devices must conform to safety principles, taking account of the generally acknowledged state of the art". One element in state of the art is the latest version of a standard. There is a good discussion of this in ISO 14971:2007.

    When the harmonization process worked, the latest version of the standards were also the harmonized version. Harmonized standards provide a legal presumption of conformity, but the MDD does not require them. It does require state of the art.



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    Dan O'Leary CQA, CQE
    Swanzey NH
    United States
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  • 3.  RE: State-of-the-Art

    Posted 21-Sep-2019 02:09
    Not all Notified Bodies treat "State of the Art" the same.  Some require it and others don't push it as much even though it is clearly stated in Annex I of the Essential Requirements of the MDD and also in Annex I of the MDR which is the General Safety and Performance Requirements.

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  • 4.  RE: State-of-the-Art

    Posted 21-Sep-2019 23:55
    Hopefully at least four NBs will do so going forward. :)

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    Principal Consultant
    Class Three, LLC
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  • 5.  RE: State-of-the-Art

    Posted 21-Sep-2019 15:49
    Edited by Kevin Randall 21-Sep-2019 15:50

    Your Notified Body (NB) appears to be applying what I've seen NBs deem as a most fundamental principle embodied in both the MDD and the MDR alike.  I've encountered this before, most recently earlier this year during an assessment by a prominent NB.

     

    The first tenet of this principle is that compliance with the MDD Essential Requirements (ER) or, upon transition, the MDR General Safety and Performance Requirements (GSPR), is fundamentally paramount relative to the application of harmonized standards.  In other words, despite the pervasive use of harmonized standards, their application is, except regarding symbols in the labeling, only one possible means of demonstrating conformity with the ER / GSPR.  Note that this tenet is fundamentally the same in both the MDD (see preface paragraph 16 and Article 5) and the MDR (see preface item 22 and Article 8, among others).

     

    The second tenet of this principle is driven by NB interpretations that compliance with the state of the art is one of the most important MDD ERs and MDR GSPRs.  Like the first tenet, this second tenet has been in place for decades and is fundamentally the same in both the MDD (e.g., see Annex I.I.2 first paragraph) and the MDR (e.g., see Annex I.I.1).

     

    Therefore, in consideration of NB interpretations that ER / GSPR conformity (and thereby conformity with the state of the art) are paramount relative to application of harmonized standards, then it becomes easier to see why it can be argued that it is legislatively correct for an NB to push for compliance with the latest versions of applicable standards rather than the harmonized version.  Indeed, in these terms, harmonized standards are oftentimes no longer the state of the art – a phenomenon experienced time and again under the MDD, and that will continue under the MDR.

     

    Finally, regarding NB mandates for complying with particular standards, take note that in actuality, such mandates are fundamentally contrary to the intent of the MDD and MDR.  Specifically, remember that the MDD and the MDR alike both maintain the liberty for manufacturers to adopt alternative conformity solutions if such alternatives ensure a level of safety and performance at least equivalent to the standard.  Examples of such liberty are MDD prefacing paragraph 16 plus Article 5, and MDR prefacing item 22 plus Article 9.3 (specifically in the context of common specifications), Article 71.3(b), and Annex XI.15.1.  Therefore, this provides valid grounds for questioning such NB mandates, and I have previously won such appeals accordingly.

     

    Now, in defense of the NBs, verifying conformity with a known standard is logistically easier than verifying the integrity of a manufacturer's alternative conformity approach plus the resulting ER / GSPR conformity.  Consequently, such NB mandates are understandable, and are in fact quite common.  But when pushing back against such mandates, I've found that NBs will acknowledge and make way for the intended liberty provided by the MDD/MDR.  Yet remember that, in theory, standards are derived with input from consortia of our industry's most qualified members.  Therefore, attempting to derive an alternative conformity approach most certainly involves a lot of heaving lifting and swimming upstream against some very strong currents; thus the reason that most stakeholders in the end usually just opt to apply a known standard.

     

    Hope this helps.

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    Kevin Randall, ASQ CQA, RAC (Europe, U.S., Canada)
    Principal Consultant
    ComplianceAcuity, Inc.
    Golden CO
    United States
    www.complianceacuity.com
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  • 6.  RE: State-of-the-Art

    Posted 22-Sep-2019 06:52
    Don't pay attention to the European Harmonised Standards list - always use the most current version of the standard.  The harmonised standard list is dreadfully out of date, missing information, and obsolete.  To comply with Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP) and state of the art related to processes and application of regulations, standards, or guidance, use the most current version.  There are some standards with a transition period and some regulatory agencies impose a translation period for standards as well - these are more important to comply with for regulatory compliance.

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  • 7.  RE: State-of-the-Art

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    Posted 01-Oct-2019 08:53
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    Thanks - this is all good stuff, but what about the timing?​  If I get audited in 2019 and a new version of 62304 came out in 2019, am I supposed to stop ship until I can recertify my product to this new standard?


  • 8.  RE: State-of-the-Art

    Posted 01-Oct-2019 10:40
    Good question.  Remember that standards typically have a transition period.  For example, ISO 13485:2016 (edition March 1, 2016) had a three-year transition period whereby it came into full effect on March 1, 2019.  If you look at the life cycle history of the standard it cancelled and replaced (ISO 13485:2003), you'll see it was withdrawn in correlation with the end of ISO 13485:2016's transition period.  When I discuss with ISO registrars and EU Notified Bodies the standards I've chosen to apply, I assert such transitional periods (and you should too).

    Hope this helps.

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    Kevin Randall, ASQ CQA, RAC (U.S., Canada, Europe)
    Principal Consultant
    ComplianceAcuity, Inc.
    Golden CO
    United States
    www.complianceacuity.com
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