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  • 1.  USA vs EU Product - Different Indications for Use

    Posted 02-Aug-2016 10:24

    Hi All, 

    I am currently working on a product that will have a different indications for use in the EU and the USA. 
    My challenge is currently how to manage my development documentation in such a way as to be able to demonstrate that the product is only indicated for the use in the USA without the EU indications been read as a USA one which could result in an adulterated product charge, or worse commercialising a device without authorisation. The risk is in the Establishment inspection later on in the future. 

    My thinking at present is to have the design brief very clearly highlight that there is a difference in the two indications. This means however that the design inputs and outputs might have to be different documents as I would effectively be looking at two different products. As you would appreciate it, this is something that I would rather avoid if possible as this would be extra work for an already stretched team. 
    Any debate on this is welcome.

    Thanks for reading. 

    Diana 

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    Diana
    Royston
    United Kingdom
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  • 2.  RE: USA vs EU Product - Different Indications for Use

    Posted 03-Aug-2016 08:03

    Hi Diana.

    First, let me simply state that I can feel your pain with respect to having a stretched team.  It seems in some situations that the RA function is inevitably understaffed and over-stretched.  That said, I don't know if you are going to like the answer I come up with.

    Unfortunately, the only way to truly insulate your firm from significant questions and having to defend the products on both sides of the Atlantic would be to essentially develop the documentation as if you were truly developing 2 separate products.  That said, much of the same information may wind up in both document sets.  But if you want to be able to insulate the claims between the US and EU you need to really look at the idea that if the document is in the file, the audit is likely to find it, ask about it, and even potentially write you up for it.  Think of it this way - from an auditor's perspective, if the same information is used for 2 devices with 2 different indications for 2 different jurisdictions, it is far too easy to have a labeling mix-up which could misbrand the device.

    I may be alone in my opinion here and look forward to other's comments, but this is one instance where extra work now may eliminate significant extra work later that could easily be seen to include the need to split the documentation up anyway.

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    Victor Mencarelli
    Sr. Manager - Regulatory Affairs
    Hain Celestial Group
    United States



  • 3.  RE: USA vs EU Product - Different Indications for Use

    Posted 03-Aug-2016 10:00

    In general I agree with Victor's conclusion - the surest way, by far, is to create separate documentation. However, I have seen another alternative work. This alternative is to create "tags" in your inputs and other documents that say "US only", "EU only" and "All". Then you can have one design input document, trace matrix etc that clearly "tags" which elements apply where.

    Generally, when doing this, it is still better to have completely separate documents for certain key items. For instance, the risk/benefit analysis is nearly impossible to write clearly if you try and combine different indications. This also tend to be true for clinical evidence reports. You would want to sit down with the team and create a careful plan as to how this would be structured ahead of time, as having team members use differing approaches would likely cause problems as you near the end of the project.

    This is certainly not the best approach, but it can work, and for smaller companies, can be a way to better manage resources. Just be sure whoever your front room audit/inspection leader understands the structure well and is comfortable explaining it!

    g-

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    Ginger Glaser RAC
    Vice-President, Quality and Regulatory Affairs
    Maplewood MN
    United States



  • 4.  RE: USA vs EU Product - Different Indications for Use

    Posted 03-Aug-2016 11:41

    Indications are the pertinent focus from which all of your design requirements, risk analyses, risk management mitigation ,and labeling IFU will be based. Therefore, it sounds like you have 2 different products; one that is approved for CE Mark that has Indication A, and one that is cleared in the US for Indication B.  

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    [Ponzelle [Royster] [RAC]
    [Director QA / RA]
    [Myelotec, Inc.]
    [Roswell] [GA]
    [USA]



  • 5.  RE: USA vs EU Product - Different Indications for Use

    Posted 03-Aug-2016 12:04
    Diana,

    As an analogy using food, in the US, you have prepared food "American Breakfast" (e.g., ham and egg with cheese and potato).

    In EU, you have prepared food "Italian Pizza."

    Now you mix both together in preparation for an audit.

    During the audit, what you may be showing to the auditors may be really "Korean food (Zzambbong)" not really American breakfast or Italian pizza.

    Enough said - sorry to make you laugh at

    As a practical matter, if you read the regulatory and quality requirements in both EU and US, it should be separated to avoid confusion.  Separating the documentation is rather less laborious and costly for a long term. 

    If you choose to exercise mixing together, you would need to have an "Art of Separation" scheme with potential risks of introducing confusion or even non-conformance here and there without even notice. 

    Thank you.  

    s/ David
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  • 6.  RE: USA vs EU Product - Different Indications for Use

    Posted 03-Aug-2016 13:12

    It's hard to comment usefully on documentation you haven't seen, but I tend think more along the lines of Ginger's "tag" idea.  I'd probably try color coding myself, in part because color is cognitively primal and in part because I just like the way it looks. :)

    The other question is what about this stretches the over-stretched team?  I can't be the need to print two documents instead of one.  Is it the time involved in maintaining and updating two separate documents?  If so, that's usually because there is a lot of overlap in content, so that a single change requires two separate updates.  In that case, not to coin a term, but I would also explore the idea of a common technical file that has information applicable to both products, and then separate files for information applicable only to two.

    I say this with the caveat that I've never maintained a technical file, but I've worked with many of the individual documents and have run into this scenario on the level of the individual document, not the entire technical file.

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    Julie Omohundro, ex-RAC (US, GS), still an MBA
    Principal Consultant
    Class Three, LLC
    Durham, North Carolina, USA
    919-544-3366 (T)
    434-964-1614 (C)
    julie@class3devices.com



  • 7.  RE: USA vs EU Product - Different Indications for Use

    Posted 04-Aug-2016 09:35

    Hi All,

    Many thanks for the responses.

    My actual thinking is that I am going to have to run two projects effectively as the indications for use are so different; I had hoped that someone would have the silver bullet that I just could not see from where I am sitting but alas it was not to be. 

    Diana 

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    Diana Korda Hewitt
    Head of RAQA
    Royston
    United Kingdom