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  • 1.  Cosmetic VS OTC

    Posted 26-Oct-2014 22:53
    Dear Forum,
    If a soap containing less than 0.1% of chlorhexidine glucoate, will it be considered as a cosmetic or OTC? Will it make a difference if it is named as "antibacterial" soap and/or making claim like kill 99.9% of bacterial in the packaging?  Many thanks.


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    Mycin Chiu
    Cosemtic and Personal Care
    Hong Kong
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  • 2.  RE: Cosmetic VS OTC

    Posted 27-Oct-2014 07:30
    As the use of CH is for drug use only, even making no claims, your product would be considered a drug. Further, CH is a NDA only drug. Some will say it is a preservative, but soaps do not need to have additional preservatives if they meet the FDA's definition of a soap. Finally the words ant-bacteria in ant form (even as a name) is a drug claim. ------------------------------------------- David Steinberg FRAPS President Steinberg & Associates Inc Plainsboro NJ United States -------------------------------------------


  • 3.  RE: Cosmetic VS OTC

    Posted 27-Oct-2014 08:35
    Hi Mycin.

    I am not certain if all jurisdictions look at this the same way but in the US, the FDA has always looked specifically at 2 things - (1) what are the claims being made for the product and (2) what are the ingredients in the product and are any of these ingredients known pharmaceutical active ingredients.

    In your example, the term "antibacterial" or the claims "kill 99.9% of bacteria" on the packaging would almost certainly subject you to the drug requirements.  That also would mean that you have 2 basic choices: (1) use a monograph-approved active ingredient within the monograph specified allowable percentages or (2) support your product with an (A)NDA submission depending on what information and other products might be out there already.

    The list of FDA actives and their allowable percentages can be found in the monograph itself on the FDA's website.  However, the last time I looked at the monograph the FDA had not finalized it as of yet.  That means that while the monograph currently published as "Tentative" represents agency current thinking on the topic, there is still the distinct possibility based on comments or other data becoming available that the monograph in its final form will change the actives, the levels, or the required information in your Drug Facts Box.  This could result in your product becoming a mislabeled product (if the DFB changes) at minimum requiring a labeling update or at worst an unapproved new drug (if the active(s) or the level(s) allowed is different from what you have in your product) resulting in reformulation, removal from the marketplace, etc.)

    Hope some of this helps!

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    Victor Mencarelli
    Sr. Manager - Regulatory Affairs
    United States
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  • 4.  RE: Cosmetic VS OTC

    Posted 27-Oct-2014 09:04
    It is OTC (a soap containing chlorhexidine glucoate). 

    In the US, antibacterial soaps as topical antimicrobial products are regulated under monograph for "Healthcare Antiseptic Drug Products."

    You may download the monograph or learn more about "Topical Antimicrobial Products" at http://wp.me/P33LGu-3Ps

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  • 5.  RE: Cosmetic VS OTC

    Posted 27-Oct-2014 11:25

    FDA interprets the term "soap" to apply ONLY when (1) the bulk of the nonvolatile matter in the product consists of an alkali salt of fatty acids and the product's detergent properties are due to the alkali-fatty acid compounds, and (2) the product is labeled, sold, and represented SOLELY as soap [21 CFR 701.20]. Products that meet this definition of soap are regulated by CPSC.Your product does not meet the definition of soap and will not be regulated as a soap but as a drug.

    Good luck.

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    Andrea Chamblee RAC, FRAPS
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  • 6.  RE: Cosmetic VS OTC

    Posted 03-Nov-2014 20:46
    Dear all,

    Thanks a lot for the reply and help. However, i would like to ask if the product contain very low percentage of Chlorhexidine gluconate (less than 0.1%), will it make a difference in differentiating it as a cosmetic or OTC/drug when the product did NOT make any claim or implying any antibacterial properties by presentation? Or it is an all-or-none scenario that whenever  Chlorhexidine gluconate is intentionallly added, regardless how low the percentage, it is still an OTC / drug? As i find the normal use of this active ingredient in antimicrobial skin product would have to be 4% or more.
    BTW, sorry but would you let me know the website/ link for the FDA monography of active ingredeint of chlorhexidine gluconate? Thanks again.

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    Mycin Chiu
    Cosmetic and Personal Care
    Hong Kong
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  • 7.  RE: Cosmetic VS OTC

    Posted 04-Nov-2014 07:36
    CH can and is used as a preservative of cosmetics in the US. You cannot make any anti-bacteria claim no matter the concentration. That moves you over to being a drug. ------------------------------------------- David Steinberg FRAPS President Steinberg & Associates Inc Plainsboro NJ United States -------------------------------------------


  • 8.  RE: Cosmetic VS OTC

    Posted 04-Nov-2014 08:26
    Hi Mycin!

    First, for the easy part of your question - here is a great link to a portion of the FDA's website that actually provides access to each and every OTC monograph that the agency has seemingly ever published as well as links to the actual Federal Register notices after each jump to the monograph:

    http://www.fda.gov/drugs/developmentapprovalprocess/developmentresources/over-the-counterotcdrugs/statusofotcrulemakings/default.htm

    As to the second part of your question, my opinion is that an antimicrobial can almost always be used for preservation of the product at sufficient levels.  These levels are typically somewhat lower than the level needed for active ingredient status.  Therefore, unless the material is considered to be a banned ingredient according to the regulations themselves found at 21 CFR 700.11-700.23 it could still be in there.  However, there does not appear to be any specific prohibition currently based on what I just found here:

    http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm

    using the 21 CFR 700 search.

    So overall, if no claim is made, and the level of the ingredient is below the "safe and effective" active ingredient level, then I would suggest that the material could at least in theory be used in the product.  Again, this is entirely an opinion but based on the fact that the FDA has not seen fit to specifically prohibit the material and the level of the ingredient is below that of "active therapeutic" levels, it would seem acceptable.  But I would simply ask the question of your team - what is the purpose/function of this ingredient in the formula?  If there is a scientifically sound and justifiable purpose, then you can also document that determination which will assist in the event of questions from the agency.

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    Victor Mencarelli
    Sr. Manager - Regulatory Affairs
    United States
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  • 9.  RE: Cosmetic VS OTC

    Posted 04-Nov-2014 09:13
    In your posts (previous and below), you referred to soap, cosmetic and/or OTC with CG.

    Just to point out that in the US, the term "soap" is specifically excluded in the FD&C Act. In other words, in the US, soap is not cosmetic.  To meet the term "soap," it has to meet the definition of 21 CFR 701.20 including specific labeling requirements.

    Otherwise, soap is outside the US FDA's jurisdiction and falls under CPSC jurisdiction in the US. 

    If you have any questions about soap requirements per se, you may want to contact CPSC.

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  • 10.  RE: Cosmetic VS OTC

    Posted 05-Nov-2014 01:16
    Dear All,

    Thank you for all the advice and clarification. It is very helpful and all cloud is clear now.

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    Mycin Chiu
    Cosmetic and Personal Care
    Hong Kong
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