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  • 1.  Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 12-Nov-2015 11:38
    Are there any requirements for a facility that performs installation and servicing for devices in the US that are manufactured by a foreign manufacturer?

    Brian H. Frye 




  • 2.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 12-Nov-2015 12:38

    Good morning Brian,

    The list of establishment "types" that are required to register with FDA can be found here:  Who Must Register, List and Pay the Fee.  

    The "Device Installer and Servicer" is not listed specifically, however, keep in mind that the installation records and service reports must be provided to the manufacturer, in order for them to meet their regulatory obligation with respect to the Quality System Regulations.

    Also, keep in mind ISO 13485 (the international medical device quality management system for meeting regulatory requirements) is changing, and the scope is expanding to include all organizations in the supply chain.  Last week, I was in China and I was involved with two separate conferences, where the affect of ISO 13485 on supply chain was a main topic.  I encourage you to get more information and begin planning today for changes coming in the next few years.  

    Medtech Review is sponsoring a webinar series on the new ISO 13485 that begins on 03 December 2015, with Egan Cobbold (member of the writing committee responsible for the revisions and former Health Canada Quality Systems Officer).  Registration is open, and I encourage you to register today.  Webinar Registration 


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  • 3.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 12-Nov-2015 12:51
    Brian,

    Are you referring to a "facility" in the US as an importer and/or distributor or a third party entered into a contractual relationship with the importer and/or distributor in the US?

    I am trying to nail down to a legal entity status to accurately determine what requirements the facility may be subject to. 

    FYI: the GCS provide a customized, virtual training for ISO 13485, ISO 14971 and IEC 62304.

    Yesterday, we provided a 3-hr training to a firm in CA for both ISO 14971 and IEC 62304.

    Thank you.  

    s/ David
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    Dr. David Lim, Ph.D., RAC, ASQ-CQA 
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  • 4.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 12-Nov-2015 19:12

    To answer the question, you need to clarify your relationship with the device manufacturer. There are multiple roles between the foreign manufacturer and a US company. They are not all, necessarily, performed by the same US company, but a US company could perform some, if not all, the rolls.

    The roles that come to mind are US Agent, distributor, installation provider, and servicing provider.

    Assuming you are only an installation provider and service provider, then, it appears you have no responsibilities to FDA. However, your customer, the foreign manufacturer, needs to bring you into their supplier management program as a service supplier. They are outsourcing part of their QMS requirements to you. Under their QMS requirements you should be providing installation data (820.170) and servicing data (820.200).

    It would be best if your customer trained you on how to recognize a potentially reportable event under the Medical Device Reporting regulation.

    Your customer may also require you to provide information to the US Agent, since the US agent forwards MDR complaints to the foreign manufacturer and maintains complaint files.

    If you are the distributor or the US Agent, there are other requirements, which I did not raise.

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    Dan O'Leary
    Swanzey NH
    United States



  • 5.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 13-Nov-2015 07:45

    Hello,

    Just to add to this...besides FDA considerations, if the devices you are installing and/or servicing are radiation emitting equipment  (X-ray, CT devices, etc.), your company will have to register with each state who requires an installation or service license, and in some states the individual service technicians will have to be formally registered with that state. The states also require registration to demonstrate or sell, in some cases.

    And in all cases, for servicing all these types of devices,  the service personnel must be qualified and fully trained on that equipment and records of this may be required by the states to obtain  your license.

    Best regards,

    Ginger Cantor, RAC
    Founder/Principal Consultant
    Centaur Consulting LLC
    centaurconsultingllc@gmail.com
    715-307-1850






  • 6.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 13-Nov-2015 09:00

    All:

    Thank you all for your feedback.  To clarify, we are registered as the initial importer with FDA for our parent OUS company (the registered manufacturer) and we handle all North American distribution of our products.  But we also perform field support such as device installation and device servicing.  We are not ISO registered/certified.  When I reviewed the part 807 and the FDA resources I did not see anything that specifically made reference to registration requirements for install/service activities so I was requesting feedback on how this has been approached in the industry.

    Based on your responses I conclude that there are no additional registration requirements for the installation / servicing activities of our organization.  Of course we comply with the relevant QSR/ GMP requirements.  My concern was that performing installation and servicing might have required us to also be registered as part of the manufacturing organization but you have assuaged my concerns.

    Thank you all for the input in helping arrive at a conclusion.

    Kind Regards,

    Brian

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    Brian Frye
    Quality Assurance Lead
    Roche Diagnostics
    Indianapolis IN
    United States



  • 7.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 13-Nov-2015 11:38

    I must say, I have always thought FDA failed the consistency test with its registration definitions. 

    Both installation and servicing are included in the QSR, and were included back when it was still just the GMP regulation (right?).  To me this means that these activities are part of the manufacturing process, so it makes no sense to me that facilities which carry out these two manufacturing "steps," are excluded from registration.  (This is not to say that I think they should be required to register, just that it makes no sense to me that they are excluded from registration by not being considered contract manufacturers.  I would be happier if they were acknowledged to be contract manufacturers and then were excepted from the requirement.)

    I'm also bothered by the fact that a contract sterilizer is defined separately from a contract manufacturer. The latter is defined as a facility that "manufactures a finished device to another establishment's specifications."  I don't think it's finished until it's ready for use, and if it will be sold sterile, it isn't ready to be used until it's been sterilized.

    That said, manufacturing is not my strong suit.  Perhaps others here can shed some light on how this all hangs together better than I think it does?  I do think that registration requirements should be consistent with the QSR, when you consider that whether or not a facility will be subject to inspection for QSR compliance is essentially determined by whether or not it is registered.

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    Julie Omohundro RAC
    Durham NC
    United States



  • 8.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 13-Nov-2015 14:07
    Julie,

    Your points are taken and have been considered. 

    As for a "contract sterilizer," it doesn't fall under the definition of a device manufacturer, arguably speaking.  However, because of potential risks posed if it is not sterilized adequately, FDA wanted to include the "Contract Sterilizer" to register, list and pay the fee.  

    BTW: If you are bothered by some definitions (whether it is redundant, confusing or makes no sense whatsoever), how are you going to enjoy navigating regulatory hurdles sometimes (more often than not) dealing with regulators with zero (0) level of emotional intelligence?

    A good thing, though, is that FDA/CDRHers are being offered for some training on emotional intelligence (EQ) as evidenced at their recent performance report (http://regulatorydoctor.us/fda-cdrh-mdufa-iii-performance-report/).

    Let's keep on raising issues! 

    Thank you.  

    s/ David
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    Dr. David Lim, Ph.D., RAC, ASQ-CQA 
    President and CEO | REGULATORY DOCTOR and GCS
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  • 9.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 14-Nov-2015 10:31

    David, my bad.  I forget that there are two definitions of "bother," one action based and one emotion based. 

    The definitions FDA has presented to support its registration requirements do not "worry, disturb, or upset" me.  They caught my attention because, first, I'm writer/editor at base, so written inconsistencies always catch my attention, and, second, because, as both a regulatory professional and writer/editor, I've always found FDA's device regulations to be delightfully well organized, clear, and consistent, especially having started with their pharma regulations, which I find to be rather otherwise.  (Although, if you enjoy (is that an emotion?) the intellectual challenge of navigating redundant, confusing, makes-no-sense regulations, I would highly recommend the MDDs and MEDDEVs over anything FDA has ever written.)

    Once these inconsistencies caught my attention, I could have simply noted them and gone on (which I typically must do, the world being awash in inconsistencies), but in this case, I "took the trouble to do something," which was to consider why I found them inconsistent and, more to the point, whether they might not be inconsistent, and that I might simply be missing something that resolved the apparent inconsistencies.  This struck me as a viable hypothesis because 1) I normally find FDA's device regulations to be strikingly consistent, and 2) manufacturing is not my strong suit.  This was the point of my post...I was hoping someone who was more knowledgeable in this area might shed some light, and perhaps I would gain a better understanding of these definitions, and even perhaps of the conceptualization of the manufacturing process.

    So, now that I am back to my point...whew!...I am pleased to learn that someone has taken my points and bothered to consider them, and I appreciate your comment on the subject of contract sterilizers, but I'm still not clear why sterilization would not be considered part of the manufacturing process, arguably speaking or otherwise.

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    Julie Omohundro RAC
    Durham NC
    United States



  • 10.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 14-Nov-2015 10:55
    Julie,

    My previous post was intended to facilitate your continued response on the issue. 

    As for "I'm still not clear why sterilization would not be considered part of the manufacturing process."

    A firm as a manufacturer has an option to include sterilization process as part of their manufacturing process.

    It is just that when the firm decides to work with a third party for sterilization services, the third party for providing sterilization services is considered to be and it falls under contract sterilizer for FDA's device R & L purposes.   

    Please note the definition of the term "finished device" under 21 CFR 820.3(l), which states:

    "...any device or accessory to any device that is suitable for use or capable of functioning, whether or not it is packaged, labeled, or sterilized..."

    As a relevant matter, I was surprised at the news yesterday when the FDA orders recall of all automated endoscope reprocessors manufactured by a firm at <http://regulatorydoctor.us/fda-orders-a-firm-to-recall-all-of-its-automated-endoscope-reprocessors/>

    What do you think?  Is FDA reasonably sufficient? Or overreacting? 

    Thank you.  

    s/ David
    ____________________________________________________________
    Dr. David Lim, Ph.D., RAC, ASQ-CQA 
    President and CEO | REGULATORY DOCTOR and GCS
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  • 11.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 14-Nov-2015 11:51

    Great discussion. As David and Dan suggested, the manufacturer FDA QSR should include the data on installation and servicing.

    The service component is also related to the complaints aspect which would be the US Agent / Importer responsibility. Also another point worth considering for you Brian is whether you conduct any testing on the equipment prior to shipping it to the customers as this has to be performed in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions and procedures.

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    Ninad Gujar
    Danvers MA
    United States



  • 12.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 17-Nov-2015 17:14

    Julie,

    You said, “I'm also bothered by the fact that a contract sterilizer is defined separately from a contract manufacturer. The latter is defined as a facility that "manufactures a finished device to another establishment's specifications”. I don't think it's finished until it's ready for use, and if it will be sold sterile, it isn't ready to be used until it's been sterilized.”

    While that is the colloquial view, it is not the technical definition. In 21 CFR §820.3(l) Finished device means any device or accessory to any device that is suitable for use or capable of functioning, whether or not it is packaged, labeled, or sterilized.

    In the preamble #25, FDA says, “Since the 1978 CGMP regulation was promulgated, FDA has been repeatedly asked whether devices intended to be sold as sterile are considered subject to the CGMP requirements, even though they have not yet been sterilized. The agency had intended the new definition to make explicit the application of the regulation to the manufacture of sterile devices that have yet to be sterilized. Although FDA believes it should be obvious that such devices are subject to CGMP requirements, some manufacturers have taken the position that the regulation does not apply because the device is not ‘finished’ or ‘suitable for use’ until it has been sterilized.

    “To better clarify its intent, FDA has amended the definition to add that all devices that are capable of functioning, including those devices that could be used even though they are not yet in their final form, are ‘finished devices’. For example, devices that have been manufactured or assembled, and need only to be sterilized, polished, inspected and tested, or packaged or labeled by a purchaser/manufacturer are clearly not components, but are now in a condition in which they could be used, therefore meeting the definition of ‘finished device’.”

    21 CFR §820.3(o) says, “Manufacturer means any person who designs, manufactures, fabricates, assembles, or processes a finished device. Manufacturer includes but is not limited to those who perform the functions of contract sterilization, installation, relabeling, remanufacturing, repacking, or specification development, and initial distributors of foreign entities performing these functions.”

    The requirements for registration are in Part 807, not Part 820. It does seem a disconnect that “installation” is not included in Part 807. However, installation should not change the device characteristics, whereas the other tasks, expect perhaps initial distributors, do alter the device.

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    Dan O'Leary
    Swanzey NH
    United States



  • 13.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 19-Nov-2015 00:59

    Dan, thanks for the additional information.  Now I have another question:

     “Since the 1978 CGMP regulation was promulgated, FDA has been repeatedly asked whether devices intended to be sold as sterile are considered subject to the CGMP requirements, even though they have not yet been sterilized."

    Why would anyone ask this question?  And why would it matter?  If the devices are intended to be sold as sterile, but are not sterile, then they can't be sold, right?  So who cares if they have been manufactured according to CGMP or not?  On the other hand, if at that point the manufacturer wanted to sterilize them and sell them, then they would be subject CGMP, but it would be too late to manufacturer them according to CGMP, wouldn't it?

    Is this perhaps a question asked by contract manufacturers, who manufacture a device and then hand it off to the legal manufacturer for sterilization?

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    Julie Omohundro, MBA, RAC (US, GS)
    Durham NC
    United States



  • 14.  RE: Device Installer and Servicer FDA registration

    Posted 19-Nov-2015 10:37

    Julie,

    My understanding of the issue is FDA’s blocking the argument you just made. They were concerned that companies would argue that since the product is not a device until all operations are complete and it is in stock, ready to ship. Consequently the product is not a device, more like a component, and there cannot be regulated by FDA.

    The same situation applies to contract manufacturers, but you need to be careful here because of the two, different, means of contract manufacturer. In this case a contract manufacturer makes a finished device for a specification developer. That contract manufacturer is a manufacturer, even if the device is not ready to ship to the final company. FDA, I believe, would argue that it doesn’t make any difference whose production facility employed, FDA still regulates.

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    Dan O'Leary
    Swanzey NH
    United States