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  • 1.  lithium batteries IEC vs. UL

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    Posted 24-Mar-2020 14:55
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    Hi all, 
    I haven't managed to get a clear picture on the standards we need to use for our device which is powered by a rechargeable lithium battery. 

    I initially thought that having a IEC 62133-2 (2017) certificate + UN 38.3 certificate from the supplier would have done the job both for CE mark and the FDA (+ NRTL).
    However, I found websites where it is recommended to use UL 1642 and UL 2054 (instead of IEC) for NRTL certification. 
    What are your thoughts on the need of UL 1642 and UL 2054 standards for US market? Also, can you comment on IEC 62281 vs. UN 38.3? 
    Ideally I would like to limit the burden and have something that works for both European and US market at the same time (I hope it is not a dream).

    Please advice. Thanks!


  • 2.  RE: lithium batteries IEC vs. UL

    Posted 25-Mar-2020 01:55
    If you are testing to IEC 60601-1:2005 + A1:2012 (edition 3.1) the requirement is IEC 62133 (the older standard but labs will accept the newer IEC 62133-2:2017 for Rechargeable Lithium batteries). Are you planning on having a battery designed and developed for your product where you have to pay for the NRE of all the testing in addition to the design costs by the battery manufacturer and that is why you are asking this question?  Many battery manufacturer's will cover all this in their certifications IEC 62133-2 and UL 2054 & the UN 38.3.  I am not familiar with IEC 62281 to comment on that.

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    Leonard (Leo) Eisner, P.E.
    The "IEC 60601 Guy"
    Principal Consultant, Eisner Safety Consultants
    Phone: (503) 244-6151
    Mobile: (503) 709-8328
    Email: Leo@EisnerSafety.com
    Website: www.EisnerSafety.com
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  • 3.  RE: lithium batteries IEC vs. UL

    Posted 25-Mar-2020 07:53
    My client used Intertek as NRTL, and they accepted IEC-62133, not requiring the UL.  So did FDA.

    Good luck.

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    Centaur Consulting LLC
    River Falls, Wisconsin 54022 USA
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  • 4.  RE: lithium batteries IEC vs. UL

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    Posted 25-Mar-2020 11:28
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    This thread a few months ago had some input on this topic of batteries and standards:

    https://connect.raps.org/communities/community-home/digestviewer/viewthread?MessageKey=7421f9af-61d7-4ae3-b230-c8f69d284a79&CommunityKey=5af348a7-851e-4594-b467-d4d0983b6d89&tab=digestviewer#bm7421f9af-61d7-4ae3-b230-c8f69d284a79


  • 5.  RE: lithium batteries IEC vs. UL

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    Posted 26-Mar-2020 13:47
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    Thank you all. 
    Leonard, yes that's exactly our scenario, except that we want to test to the ANSI/AAMI version of the standard (not the IEC), accepted by the FDA.


  • 6.  RE: lithium batteries IEC vs. UL

    Posted 27-Mar-2020 12:11
    ANSI/AAMI of IEC 60601-1:2005 +A1:2012 is the same standard unless you run into the US national deviations which is about 1 page of items which are mainly dealing with mains power issues focused around x-ray & NFPA 99 issues.  You should look at them just in case but probably won't impact your device unless x-ray device or heavy on the mains power side of things.

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    Leonard (Leo) Eisner, P.E.
    The "IEC 60601 Guy"
    Principal Consultant, Eisner Safety Consultants
    Phone: (503) 244-6151
    Mobile: (503) 709-8328
    Email: Leo@EisnerSafety.com
    Website: www.EisnerSafety.com
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  • 7.  RE: lithium batteries IEC vs. UL

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    Posted 01-May-2020 14:09
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    Hi all,
    I would like to follow-up on this old post. 
    Do you have recommendations for which standards to use for the battery charger (of a lithium battery) in USA (FDA & OSHA)? 
    Thanks


  • 8.  RE: lithium batteries IEC vs. UL

    Posted 01-May-2020 19:51
    The answer as in many cases is it depends.  Based on where is it located on impacts the standards that apply.  IEC 60601-1, IEC 61010-1, IEC 60950-1, IEC 62368-1, etc. are possible options depending on location used and also depending country marketed in and regulatory approval process, etc.  Is it located in the OR, it is in the Patient environment based on the IEC 60601-1 requirement of the patient environment.  Is it an accessory to a medical device or is it an accessory to a laboratory device?  Is it used in the home environment or is it located in a professional environment (hospital, clinic, dr.'s office, etc.)? Is it accessible to a child, operators, patients, or which combination?  These all have impacts on which standard applies to the charger and also the location of the charger in the overall system as well.  So, not a straight forward answer.  Please contact me directly for further guidance.

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    Leonard (Leo) Eisner, P.E.
    The "IEC 60601 Guy"
    Principal Consultant, Eisner Safety Consultants
    Phone: (503) 244-6151
    Mobile: (503) 709-8328
    Email: Leo@EisnerSafety.com
    Website: www.EisnerSafety.com
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