I was the Regulatory/QA Director for a pre-clinical lab from 2006-2008 (Surpass) . At that time, SQA and FDA was looking at th feasibility of making testing labs install full quality systems, and there was discussion whether ISO 9001 or ISO 17025 was more appropriate, since GLPs under 21 CFR 58, and 21 CFR 11 were in as requirements anyway. For studies that were to be submitted outside the US, we also followed OECD requirements, and of course for all studies (both GLP and non-GLP) we followed requirements of the US Animal Welfare Act AND the regulations under it.
Labs fought the suggestion they had to be certified to ISO 17025 or ISO 9001 back THEN, for the most part. If anything was to be applied, we thought we "might" be able to live with ISO 17025. But nothing other US GLPs, Part 11, and Animal Welfare Act is yet required at the moment.
If you are just running early pre-clinical feasibility /screening studies to determine study design, etc..they do not have to be done under GLPs unless they are to be submitted in an application/submission.
But in my opinion, the closer your device gets to final prototype, you should be running under GLPs......if you have a Class 1 or other Class device exempt from filing, you really need to do your biocomp/safety related studies under GLP anyway. Just my insider recommendation.
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Ginger Cantor, MBA, RAC
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Centaur Consulting LLC
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Original Message:
Sent: 19-Jun-2020 10:06
From: Julie Omohundro
Subject: Biocompatibility
21 CFR Part 58(a) This part prescribes good laboratory practices for conducting nonclinical laboratory studies that support or are intended to support applications for research or marketing permits for products regulated by the Food and Drug Administration, including food and color additives, animal food additives, human and animal drugs, medical devices for human use, biological products, and electronic products.
I'm not aware of any FDA regulation that requires a lab be ISO 17025 certified. That seems somewhat redundant, but there might be situations in which it would be useful, depending on the product. I think the ISO certification grew up with labs that did chemical analysis/materials testing, probably for a range of industries, rather than for medical products per se, and problems arose when they tried to pursue the latter as if they were former. In contrast, the GLP regulation was written specifically for FDA-regulated products.
Interesting little overview here:
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Julie Omohundro, ex-RAC (US, GS), still an MBA
Principal Consultant
Class Three, LLC
Mebane, North Carolina, USA
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Original Message:
Sent: 18-Jun-2020 02:52
From: Anonymous Member
Subject: Biocompatibility
This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
Hello,
usually the FDA expects labs doing biocompatibility testing are working according to GLP (Good Laboratory Practice).
Best Regards
Original Message:
Sent: 17-Jun-2020 06:06
From: Anonymous Member
Subject: Biocompatibility
This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
Hi all,
Regarding testing labs, is there any requirement by the FDA that the lab should be ISO 17025 certified?
Thanks!
Original Message:
Sent: 19-Jul-2019 03:49
From: Spyros Drivelos
Subject: Biocompatibility
Hi
The biological evaluation processed is performed in the finished product. This means that you do not evaluate only the raw materials, but also your entire process.
Even if you have exactly the same materials with another manufacturer (which by itself is a very difficult task), you need to justify that you have exactly the same process (including production, sterilization, packaging etc) in order to waive testing. This will be very challenging, especially for implantable devices.
On the other hand, if by performing chemical characterization, you can see whats going on with your device, retrieve all the toxicological information and make a solid justification to avoid some expensive and time-consuming tests.
Hope that helps
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Spyros Drivelos
Medical Devices Manager
Agia Paraskevi, Athens
Greece
Original Message:
Sent: 16-Jul-2019 04:12
From: Jayaram Abimanyu
Subject: Biocompatibility
Hi All,
Do we need to test again for the biocompatibility when we already chosen proven material for use in medical device. We are in the process of making active implantable medical devices and accessories. We have chosen material already proven biocompatibility. Please suggest do we need to go again for testing.
Regards,
Jayaram
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Jayaram Abimanyu
Chennai
India
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