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  • 1.  Thoughts on MDD/MDR status

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 06-Mar-2020 08:50
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    ​​Hello forum, happy Friday,

    I look after RA for a UK manufacturer, we're a former LRQA client who finally (after a false start with one NB) has an MDD NB CE certificate again. We're now in the risky situation where we're better off than we were, but what if our MDD NB doesn't make it to MDR?

    How can we lobby the EC (from the UK...) to publish more information on what status each NB is at with their designation? We know how many are at each stage but without names we're reliant on the word of our existing NBs. This might give some NBs a competitive advantage, but putting patients first should be priority. If our NB's futures are in doubt should we not know more now to be able to put plans in place and prevent supply problems?


  • 2.  RE: Thoughts on MDD/MDR status

    Posted 06-Mar-2020 22:39
    How do we know how many are at each stage?  What stages are you referring to?  The only information I'm aware of is in the Rolling Plan, which hasn't been updated since December and has no stages, only the number that have been designated and the number that are in queue.

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    Julie Omohundro, ex-RAC (US, GS), still an MBA
    Principal Consultant
    Class Three, LLC
    Mebane, North Carolina, USA
    919-544-3366 (T)
    434-964-1614 (C)
    julie@class3devices.com
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  • 3.  RE: Thoughts on MDD/MDR status

    Posted 07-Mar-2020 07:17
    Unfortunately none of that information is publicly disclosed.  You would have to contact each NB as a client or prospective client to understand where they are at in the designation process.  Also I would love, love, love to see results of NB audits, the type of nonconformities they receive, and results of their quality system processes how effective they are against the requirements.  Sadly, I doubt that will ever be the case.  How can you lobby the EC ... go stand outside the office in Brussels with a big sign every day stating "Transparency."  All you will get is a nice tan if it is sunny outside.  It is still not about having patients first, but about creating busy work, charging for unnecessary reviews, and going through motions of compliance.

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    Richard Vincins RAC
    Vice President Global Regulatory Affairs
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  • 4.  RE: Thoughts on MDD/MDR status

    Posted 10-Mar-2020 01:17
    Many of us would love to see the results of the NB audits. 

    I should think there are those who can effectively lobby the EC as there are those who can effectively lobby Congress. I doubt that those who normally do this can be found standing outside the office in Brussels, though.  If you can round up a hundred thousand or so people and garner the attention of the media, you might be able to make a dent from outside the office as well.

    I get the busy work and motions of compliance, but...what reviews do you see as unnecessary?

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    Julie Omohundro, ex-RAC (US, GS), still an MBA
    Principal Consultant
    Class Three, LLC
    Mebane, North Carolina, USA
    919-544-3366 (T)
    434-964-1614 (C)
    julie@class3devices.com
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  • 5.  RE: Thoughts on MDD/MDR status

    Posted 08-Mar-2020 14:06
    LRQA has already stated they aren't pursuing MDR. Oriel Stat is a good source for info.

    https://www.orielstat.com/blog/eu-notified-bodies-designation-status-mdr-2017-745/

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    Adam Atherton
    Farragut TN
    United States
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  • 6.  RE: Thoughts on MDD/MDR status

    Posted 10-Mar-2020 00:52
    I think what was being asked for was information on the status of each NB that is in the process, rather than who is in and who is out.

    I would be interested to know how many of the NBs who have announced they would not seek MDR designation are still doing MDD renewals with the expectation of continuing to provide oversight through the Article 120 transitions.

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    Julie Omohundro, ex-RAC (US, GS), still an MBA
    Principal Consultant
    Class Three, LLC
    Mebane, North Carolina, USA
    919-544-3366 (T)
    434-964-1614 (C)
    julie@class3devices.com
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