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  • 1.  Exportation/Importation for Repair

    Posted 06-Mar-2018 13:16

    The company I work for is a contract manufacturer as defined by the FDA.   Outside of medical work we also do manufacturing for many in the electronics industry.  We also do electronics repair for people in the electronics industry.  We have been contacted by a potential customer about service of their medical devices.  These products consists of electronics inside a plastic housing like thermometers, EKG monitors, pulse oximeters, etc.  What complicates this is the service repair work will be done outside the US.  So the product would go from the hospital to a US staging area on the US border.  We would then decontaminate the product in the US and ship the product to our service site, service the product outside the US and ship it back to our staging area.  We would then ship the product from our staging area back to the hospital.  We are using the staging area as most hospitals won't have the expertise to understand how to do international shipments, deal with import/export regulations and to follow the appropriate decontamination processes to ensure that there are no issues crossing the border.  This will be a regular flow of units per day. 

     My questions:

     

    • When we ship these units outside the US are there any export laws that we need to be aware of from the FDA's point of view?
    • When these products come back to the US after repair they are not new, but used.  These devices are all 510(k) products.  Typically US customs looks at inbound NEW regulated products to determine if they have a valid 510(k) or PMA.  How will they review these used products?
    • Are there any other regulations that come to mind that we should be aware of that people can suggest we review and understand?


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    Rick Muller RAC
    Technical Director
    Aurora CO
    United States
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  • 2.  RE: Exportation/Importation for Repair

    Posted 07-Mar-2018 09:07
    Hello Rick,

    To me this may not be as much regulatory compliance questions as much as export/import questions.  While the Border Control checks products coming in and out of the U.S., you should become familiar with the laws and regulations for exporting and importing Basic Importing and Exporting | U.S. Customs and Border Protection. I worked in this area for a few years, but has been some years so am not current up to date on expectations and laws.  I can say that there are requirements, so you will want to make sure the products you are exporting for service are properly labelled and labelled coming back in.  The best advantage I can say you have is that there will be no financial transactions as far as moving these materials - assuming that this is within your same organisation.  When you are start selling or buying goods, this is where it gets more complicated.  If you are just shipping back and forth within your same company, this probably will be less complicated.

    - There are export laws, but not sure in this case how much involved FDA would be in the process.  What FDA probably will be most interested in are the basic GMP activities, i.e. traceability, identification, cleanliness, storage, handling, shipping, reconciliation, etc.  Meaning that as you are shipping items to be serviced to a different location, that this process is all clearly described, documented, and records maintained.
    - I would think there should not be too much concern, but I know Border Control even checks materials like components that may be used in different medical devices or even other industrial products.  Again, as long as everything is labelled properly, invoice clear, and shipping documents clear, you should not have any issues.  It will also be easier once continuation of shipments are made.
    - Definitely get on the CBP website and do research as there is a whole other world in import/export requirements.

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    Richard Vincins RAC
    Vice President Regulatory Affairs
    Pembroke Pines FL
    United States
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  • 3.  RE: Exportation/Importation for Repair

    Posted 07-Mar-2018 10:38
    Edited by John Minier 07-Mar-2018 10:42
    Hi, Rick,

    You may want to have your customs broker look into using the drawback provision so that you are not double taxed for shipping the product out of and back into the US.  We have used it in the past to bring products in from a country where they have been sold that will be reworked/relabeled and shipped back out to the same country to which they were originally sold.  There may be a provision to do the same thing in reverse.

    Regards,

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    John Minier, RAC
    Consultant, Principal
    john@johnminier.com
    (914) 850-4432
    Highland Mills, NY
    United States
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  • 4.  RE: Exportation/Importation for Repair

    Posted 08-Mar-2018 07:57
    Excellent advice.

    I have a question for a client. I know in some states there are requirements for state licensing of wholesale distributors. I am registered as a US Agent for a client and am thinking about being initial importer, which I realize means listing and that I have duties for MDR, etc under 21 CFR 803, so I am halfway through setting up my ESG.

    Here is my question... If my client drop ships directly to a end user customer and not to a distributor, do they need to obtain state distribution licenses where applicable? In theory I will not be handling devices, but only working with a broker or CPB.

    Love many opinions/perspectives on this, pros/cons of being initial importer. I will be helping a broker with FCC 740 certification. I had interaction with brokers YEARS ago when I was working in  small company where we made and shipped device components from the US to Europe.

    Thanks, 

    Ginger Cantor, MBA, RAC
    Centaur Consulting LLC centaurconsultingllc@gmail.com
    (715) 307-1850







  • 5.  RE: Exportation/Importation for Repair

    Posted 09-Mar-2018 04:51
    Edited by Angelee Kumar 09-Mar-2018 05:30
    Does your thermometer use chemical components like mercury?

    Please review The Act SUBCHAPTER VIII-IMPORTS AND EXPORTS (sections 381 to 384e).

    Please also check with Customs.

    Also review the definitions of adulterated and misbranded products in the CFR.

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    Angelee Kumar RAC
    Sr. Regulatory Associate
    Seattle WA
    United States
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