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MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

  • 1.  MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

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    Posted 13-Jan-2020 09:37
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    Hi All,

    With the new MDR requiring we add a symbol that shows our device is a medical device among other new symbols, I am interested to find out how you are going about this in your companies to comply since the BS EN ISO 15223-1 is yet to be revised. Are you updating all your artworks or waiting to use the official standardized version. Thank you


  • 2.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 13-Jan-2020 09:54
    I would say that adding the "MD" symbol to packaging isn't mutually exclusive with the requirements/graphics presented in 15223. The goal of that standard is really only to harmonize symbols that can be used in multiple locales. Specifically, the standard does not claim to provide a systematic methodology for the selection, development and validation of symbols, it only seeks to provide international a set of harmonized symbols.

    I would not wait for an updated version of 15223 (let alone wait for it to be identified as a common specification/consensus standard) to meet the regulatory requirement of the medical device identifier under the EU MDR.

    But just my 2¢

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    Jamie Wilson RAC
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  • 3.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 13-Jan-2020 10:53
    I noted your statement that the EU MDR requires the addition of a symbol showing the device is a medical device.  To which particular EU MDR requirement are you referring?  Annex I.23.1(h) requires that any symbol used shall conform to the harmonised standards (i.e., EN ISO 15223-1) or CS, but EN ISO 15223-1 includes no symbol (e.g., "MD") specifying the device as a medical device other than that for IVDs.  And Annex I.23.2(q) only calls for an indication that the device is a medical device, but makes no mention of doing that via a symbol.  Accordingly, use of "MD" would seem to conflict with Annex I.23.1(h).

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    Kevin Randall, ASQ CQA, RAC (Europe, U.S., Canada)
    Principal Consultant
    ComplianceAcuity, Inc.
    Golden, CO
    United States
    www.complianceacuity.com
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  • 4.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 13-Jan-2020 11:19

    Annex I(23.2)(q) requires that the label have "an indication that the device is a medical device". It does not require a symbol.

    If you ship a medical device covered by an EU-MDR DoC, you will be out of compliance with the regulation if you do not include the indication. The requirement is not contingent on publication of any standard. Do not wait!

    Also, a note about the standard. The CEN website says the new version will be EN ISO 15223-1. This means it will have an ISO standard as a basis. The ISO website shows ISO/DIS 15223-1 at stage 40.00, Enquiry. It will probably some time (many months) before ISO publishes and many months before CEN releases it.

    CEN doesn't publish standards; the national standards bodies publish them. Their versions have a prefix, such as BS in the case you cite. BS standards are not required, all the standards bodies publish the same standard (in terms of content). However, they do not all have the same costs. When the CEN standard is available, do some comparison shopping at the listed sales points. Traditionally, BS standards are the most expensive.



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    Dan O'Leary CQA, CQE
    Swanzey NH
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  • 5.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 14-Jan-2020 01:09
    This MedTech Europe Guidance might be helpful.

    https://www.medtecheurope.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/191217_MD-labelling_Symbols-guidance_REVISED_FINAL.pdf

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    Dirk Steinhoff PhD
    Senior Consultant
    Zug
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  • 6.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 14-Jan-2020 15:37
    Dirk,

    This is what I plan to use, as I've been told my members of the TC that those symbols were included in the draft revision to 15223-1, so hedging my bets that they don't make any changes.  

    Tina

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    Tina O'Brien RAC, MS
    Director of Regulatory Affairs
    Airport Oaks
    New Zealand
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  • 7.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

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    Posted 14-Jan-2020 17:24
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    23.1(h) does finish out saying "In areas for which no harmonised standards or CS exist, the symbols ... shall be described in the documentation supplied with the device."

    So, as before, you can use any symbol that you like as long as it is defined in the documentation (presumably the IFU). I'm pretty sure that we all have a Symbols Legend/Table already in IFUs, even for the current harmonised symbols from ISO 15223.


  • 8.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 14-Jan-2020 17:42
    But remember in this case, a harmonized standard does exist in the affected area (i.e., regarding symbols), and that harmonized standard is EN ISO 15223-1.  Therefore I would caution against adding symbols that aren't encompassed by (or reasonably likely to become encompassed by) EN ISO 15223-1.

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    Kevin Randall, ASQ CQA, RAC (Europe, U.S., Canada)
    Principal Consultant
    ComplianceAcuity, Inc.
    Golden, CO
    United States
    www.complianceacuity.com
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  • 9.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 14-Jan-2020 19:16
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    Stating that a standard is harmonized without stating the version of the standard is not correct. Many harmonized standards are now obsolete.

    Harmonization is relative to a directive or regulation. It is not an attribute of the standard, but of directive or regulation. One cannot look at a standard and determine whether or not it is harmonized to any directive or regulation.

    In terms of the MDD, the correct statement is EN ISO 15223-1:2016 is harmonized to the MDD.

    The second question is whether the harmonized standard is the current standard. The current standard is EN ISO 15223-1:2016. However, EN ISO 15223-1:2016/prA1 is "Under Enquiry" and prEN ISO 15223-1 rev is "Under Approval".

    The current standard and standard harmonized to the MDD are the same. This is good!

    The original question, however, did not ask about the MDD but about the MDR. There are no standards harmonized to the MDR.

    The requirement in EU-MDR Annex I(23.2)(q) is "an indication that the device is a medical device". This does not require a symbol, but a symbol does not require translation. Other indications may require translation.

    There is a suitable symbol in a MedTech Europe guidance document "Use of Symbols to Indicate Compliance with the MDR" December 2019 Version 2.0. I've attached the document.

    EU-MDR Annex (23.1)(h) requires that, when appropriate, "the information supplied by the manufacturer shall take the form of internationally recognized symbols". It provides two options:
    A harmonized standard
    A common specification

    Unfortunately, neither exists for the EU-MDR.

    However, there is a third option. "In areas for which no harmonized standards or CS exist, the symbols and colors shall be described in the documentation supplied with the device".

    There is good news and bad news here.

    Good News: Feel free to use the symbol from the MedTech Europe guidance document provided you describe the symbol in the documentation supplied.

    Bad News: Because the EU-MDR does not have any harmonized standards or common specifications, you must describe every symbol used.



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    Dan O'Leary CQA, CQE
    Swanzey NH
    United States
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  • 10.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 14-Jan-2020 19:23
    I'm adding these to my existing symbols glossary, so am feeling good :)

    Thanks Richard!

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    Tina O'Brien RAC, MS
    Director of Regulatory Affairs
    Airport Oaks
    New Zealand
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  • 11.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

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    Posted 21-Jan-2020 11:11
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    I am hoping you can advise on the packaging level(s) where the MD symbol (or other indication that the product is a medical device) is required. For example, consider the case where there are six devices contained in an inner box, which is the lowest saleable unit. And a master carton containing 4 inner boxes. The EU MDR definition of a label includes the packaging of multiple devices, which would seem to indicate the MD symbol could be on the inner box only, but with this interpretation, the product identification, additional symbols, and the Authorized Rep information could also be on the inner box and not on the device itself. We have always included this information on the actual device labels. Could you please comment on the lowest level of packaging where the MD symbol and the AR information would be required? Is there a guidance which is more specific regarding the labeling requirements for the various packaging levels? Thanks.




  • 12.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 21-Jan-2020 18:35

    In terms of the medical device indication, I don't know of any regulation that defines the location except on the label.

    Art. 2(13) defines the label as "the written, printed, or graphic information appearing either on the device itself, or on the packaging of each unit or on the packaging of multiple devices".

    In practical terms, consider that there is information communicated to somebody. Determine who should receive the information. (There is a similar process in ISO 14971:2007 Annex J, so I would apply that approach. One might even consider the medical device indication as information for safety (but it is a stretch).

    A good rule of thumb considers other information for communication. In this case, the key is the UDI-DI. Wherever you have a UDI-DI at any packaging level, pair it with the medical device indication.

    For the authorized representative, go back to the definition of a label. I'm not sure who would use the information, but my sense is that it not the users of the UDI-DI.



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    Dan O'Leary CQA, CQE
    Swanzey NH
    United States
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  • 13.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

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    Posted 22-Jan-2020 09:13
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    Thanks for your response Dan, much appreciated!


  • 14.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 14-Jan-2020 23:41
    Dear All,
    Here is the link to MedTech Europe who has done an excellent job in regards to the MDR Symbols. 
    This should most likely set the stage for the MDR compliance and any future standard.  In any case a harmonized standard may deviate and would have more weight once available.

    Use of Symbols to Indicate Compliance with the MDR - MedTech Europe
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    Use of Symbols to Indicate Compliance with the MDR - MedTech Europe
    To comply with new MDR requirements in an efficient manner before the relevant international standard is available, MedTech Europe publishes its guidance on graphical symbols to be used on medical devices' labels. The graphical symbols in this guidance have all been validated with users, including patients and healthcare professionals, according to international standards.
    View this on MedTech Europe >


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    Ludger Moeller
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  • 15.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 21-Jan-2020 12:18
    ​This also throws another variable when you are looking at the same labeling used for FDA. FDA states they recognize the use of symbols through approved standards (ISO 15223-1) however if the symbol is not approved, you could not use the symbol. Our current plan is to have "Medical Device" written on labeling and defined/translated as part of the IFU until a symbol can be approved for both EU and FDA requirements.

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    Stacey Benser
    Quality/Regulatory Manager
    York PA
    United States
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  • 16.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 21-Jan-2020 18:43

    There is potential problem with this strategy.

    You say, "until a symbol can be approved for both EU and FDA requirements". For the EU a symbol must be in either a harmonized standard or common specification. (One could use a symbol defined in the accompanying documentation.)

    Given the current state of affairs, the EU-MDR will never have a harmonized standard. It is unlikely, in my view, that the EU will create a common specification to fill the gap created by lack of a harmonized standard.



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    Dan O'Leary CQA, CQE
    Swanzey NH
    United States
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  • 17.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 07-Feb-2020 12:55

    I think we should be very careful about asserting that there are no standards harmonized to Regulation 2017/745 (the EU MDR), or that the EU MDR will never have a harmonized standard.  Reliance on harmonized standards is a deeply established and longstanding paradigm in Europe that extends beyond just the medical device sector.  The notion that the EU MDR leaves us suddenly barren of harmonized standardization is a notion that is fundamentally contrary to Europe's wider legislative infrastructure.

    Accordingly, be sure not to overlook the final paragraph of EU MDR Article 122 stating that references to the repealed Directives (i.e., 93/42/EEC and 90/385/EEC) shall be understood as references to the EU MDR and shall be read in accordance with the correlation table laid down in EU MDR Annex XVII.  Although Annex XVII is far from perfect, and although it moreover will certainly leave some unanswered questions in areas where the EU MDR contains fundamentally new content with respect to Directives 93/42/EEC and 90/385/EEC, such a predicament is certainly far more manageable, and astronomically different, than the notion that we have no harmonized standardization at all under Regulation 2017/745.



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    Kevin Randall, ASQ CQA, RAC (Europe, U.S., Canada)
    Principal Consultant
    ComplianceAcuity, Inc.
    Golden, CO
    United States
    www.complianceacuity.com
    © Copyright 2020 by ComplianceAcuity, Inc. All rights reserved.
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  • 18.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 08-Feb-2020 11:57
    And to be clear, it is certainly most correct to acknowledge that no standards have yet, by way of corresponding references published in the OJEU, been officially harmonized for Regulation 2017/745.  But for the purposes of Regulation 2017/745 conformity assessment efforts while awaiting OJEU publication of references to 93/42/EEC harmonized standards revised for use with Regulation 2017/745 (a process that will take a significant amount of time, most certainly extending beyond 26 May 2020), I'm leaning on Article 122 final paragraph to provide a bridge in the interim so that we are not left stranded without the practical purposes fundamentally intended by harmonized standardization.

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    Kevin Randall, ASQ CQA, RAC (Europe, U.S., Canada)
    Principal Consultant
    ComplianceAcuity, Inc.
    Golden, CO
    United States
    www.complianceacuity.com
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  • 19.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 10-Feb-2020 01:35
    Regarding revision and harmonization of existing Standards under MDR please have a look at the following link:
    https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2019/6/ec-seeks-feedback-on-new-and-revised-mdrivdr-stan

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    Dirk Steinhoff PhD
    Senior Consultant
    Zug
    Switzerland
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  • 20.  RE: MDR, required new symbols and BS EN ISO 15223-1

    Posted 10-Feb-2020 09:16

    In addition to all that was already discussed about the Standard ISO 15223-1  (being a harmonised standard or not) I would like to draw your attention to the MDCG 2019-8 although originally published under the topic "Implant Card".

    This guidance published by the MDCG uses the "MD" Symbol already as well for the identification of the device as for the labelling itself.

    So this symbol could be considered as being "state of the art". The only thing that is missing is the "presumption of conformity" which would be available when published as harmonised standard under the MDR.



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    Bodo Mestmacher
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