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  • 1.  RUO and CE mark

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    Posted 14-Aug-2020 08:49
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    Hello Fellow RAPS members,

    I am quite confused when it comes to LDT and RUO.

    RUO products are intended for research use only, with no medical diagnostics/intended use. However, I see many companies selling RUO and IVD versions for patient results.
    As I understand in the US, LDTs can sell/run the RUO reagents for patient testing/results. Is this true for other regions? Can a company have a CE-IVD mark and still sell RUO versions in the EU lab?

    Also, Can RUO products have a CE mark (under EMC Directive) and carry both CE mark and For RUO only?

    Thank you for helping out!


  • 2.  RE: RUO and CE mark

    Posted 14-Aug-2020 11:17

    Your question involves two regulatory systems (US and EU) which are not comparable. They have very different requirements. The conventions in one do not carry over to the other.

    In the US system a product is either a "full" IVDs or investigational. There are three categories of investigational: RUO, IUO, and Part 812.

    In the US, there are Laboratory Developed Tests, LDTs, which are manufactured by commercial labs, run in the same lab, and used to deliver patient results. The US FDA exercises enforcement discretion, and does not regulate the manufacture of LDTs.

    A lab should not purchase an RUO, claim it is an LDT, and use it to deliver patient results. FDA has told some companies that their devices do not qualify as an LDT and cited them in Warning Letters.

    In the EU, the situation is very different. Consider the IVDR.

    A product is either a device that satisfies all the requirements (and has a CE Mrk) or a product subject to a performance study.

    The EU doesn't allow LDTs by commercial labs. Health institutions have an exception for their own use.

    Can a company have a CE-IVD mark and still sell RUO versions in the EU lab?
    No. In the EU, there are no RUO products. A product has either the CE Mark or is subject to a performance study. They are (with rare exceptions) mutually exclusive.

    Can RUO products have a CE mark (under EMC Directive) and carry both CE mark and For RUO only?
    Yes. An RUO is in the US system and a CE Mark to the EMC directive is in the EU system. A product could be in both states at the same time.



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    Dan O'Leary CQA, CQE
    Swanzey NH
    United States
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  • 3.  RE: RUO and CE mark

    Posted 17-Aug-2020 01:25
    Hello Anon,

    As Dan as indicated there is no such designation or definition of "Research Use Only" in Europe - a product is either CE Marked following the IVDD or IVDR or it is not CE Marked - for investigational or performance study use.  You can not apply the CE Mark to investigational/research use product - though there are still many requirements must be followed according to the IVDR (and IVDD).  There is also no such thing as LDT in Europe like the US - much stricter and no where near the latitude of selling IVDs in the market like the US.  There is no way for a product to be RUO and carry a CE Mark at the same time.  Any continued performance studies for a CE Mark product would be Post Market Performance Follow-up (PMPF) studies but these would still not be Research type studies.

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    Richard Vincins RAC
    Vice President Global Regulatory Affairs
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  • 4.  RE: RUO and CE mark

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    Posted 18-Aug-2020 17:03
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    Hi Richard,

    I understand that RUO and CE-IVD are mutually exclusive and completely agree with you. However my question is "For RUO" language along with "CE mark" (not CE-IVD) under EMC Directive for instrument (imager). Can RUO label say "FOR RUO only" and have "CE mark" under EMC Directive at the same time?
    What are your thoughts?

    Per Dan's response:
    Can RUO products have a CE mark (under EMC Directive) and carry both CE mark and For RUO only?
    Yes. An RUO is in the US system and a CE Mark to the EMC directive is in the EU system. A product could be in both states at the same time.

    Thanks





  • 5.  RE: RUO and CE mark

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    Posted 17-Aug-2020 09:10
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    Hi Dan,

    This was very helpful and clear. Thank you so much!

    For the label, which is carrying RUO statement and the CE mark is from an OEM. We being the legal manufacturer of the product, do not have any CE declarations. Do you think we should have those under our name or copy of OEM's declaration that should suffice?

    Thanks


  • 6.  RE: RUO and CE mark

    Posted 17-Aug-2020 09:26

    I don't understand the question, so please you clarify a few points.

    Neither the IVDD, IVDR, or FDA use the term "legal manufacturer", only manufacturer. What is the distinction in this case?

    You say "legal manufacturer of the product". What is the product?

    For example, it could be a kit that includes the item from the OEM. The OEM could sell the item to many people, or it made only for your company.

    For example, you could be a distributor for the OEM's item.

    Are you selling your product in the US? If you so, the RUO statement will limit the customers.

    Are you selling your product in the EU? If so, the product you sell needs the appropriate documentation. That depends on things like IVDD, IVDR, class, whether you are manufacturer or a distributor, etc.



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    Dan O'Leary CQA, CQE
    Swanzey NH
    United States
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  • 7.  RE: RUO and CE mark

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    Posted 19-Aug-2020 09:14
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    Hello Dan,

    Sure! You are right! The legal manufacturer term is quite confusing and not defined in any regulations. 

    When I say "Legal manufacturer" that means we have NOT designed, developed, manufactured or hold DHF for that product. We have QAA with those suppliers and re-brand it under our name and sell it to our customers as part of our end to end system/configuration.

    The product here is a micro-array imaging device/instrument used in DNA sequencing workflow. We do have a Tech File-Self Declare(complied from Supplier info) and DoC under IVDD showing us as the Legal manufacturer. So we have two sets of labels i.e. CE-IVD labels and RUO labels (with CE mark) to cater both EU and US markets along with ROW.

    Are you selling your product in the US? Yes, RUO version

    Are you selling your product in the EU? Yes,CE-IVD version

    Hope this helps. Thanks


  • 8.  RE: RUO and CE mark

    Posted 18-Aug-2020 10:04
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    Hello,

    I recommend reviewing the following guidance that address RUO products in the EU.

    GUIDELINES ON MEDICAL DEVICES IVD GUIDANCE : RESEARCH ONLY PRODUCTS: A GUIDE FOR MANUFACTURERS AND NOTIFIED BODIES MEDDEV. 2.14/2 rev.1 February 2004

    Best Regards,

    Ron

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    Ronald Dunn
    Vice President, Global Regulatory Affairs
    Sunnyvale CA
    United States
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  • 9.  RE: RUO and CE mark

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    Posted 18-Aug-2020 17:04
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    Thank you so much! I have reviewed and found helpful  however doesn't entirely answer the question about RUO and CE mark.  As Dan stated it is more towards US/EU designation of the product at the same time on the same label.

    Thanks