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Original Message:
Sent: 17-Feb-2023 00:29
From: Stephanie Grassmann
Subject: GSPR Matrix
Dear Kevin
Thanks for your comments.
Just to clarify .
Only one Document List is compiled which includes Document name, version, etc. There are no duplicate Lists.
This one Document List needs to be referenced in more than one area in the Technical File.
There is only one GSPR which references i.e. document names (with out version numbers) which support the fulfilment of each point.
One sentence references the Document List. No duplicate GSPRs or Document Lists.
For several points of the GSPR, the same filename/ file reference needs to be listed.
If the file gets updated/ revised then the same filename/ file reference listed x times in the GSPR has to be revised then x times.
This process is tedious and prone to error. Yes, I have experience here.
This is the reason why I as well as other firms are using one Document List.
In a digital age, the one Document List should not be duplicated. Dito GSPR.
Best Regards,
Stephanie
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Stephanie Grassmann
Founder & Managing Director of MedTechXperts Ltd
Biberstein
Switzerland
Original Message:
Sent: 16-Feb-2023 14:41
From: Kevin Randall
Subject: GSPR Matrix
Hi Stephanie,<o:p></o:p>
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Your fine contributions to this Forum are always appreciated. For example, your other great post from today regarding the EU MDR transition.<o:p></o:p>
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The suggestion of maintaining an extra/redundant listing of GSPR evidence documents is certainly another possible way to avoid stating the document revision levels in the GSPR checklist's own required list. I merely voiced that, for me, such redundancy is not always sustainable, as it can require more documentation and effort than just keeping one single GSPR evidence document list all in one place. For my clients who have established eQMS systems, such a secondary list is more feasible, though that approach raises its own set of possible pitfalls. And for my clients who don't yet have eQMS, such a secondary list is generally not an option because of the extra redundancy. Since the purpose of this thread was to find sustainable, efficient ways to deal with Anon's GSPR documentation dilemma, it seems fair for folks to share personal viewpoints about a two-list approach.<o:p></o:p>
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I would also add that, under the MDD, where little to no legislative mandates were given regarding the specific contents of the ER checklist, I'm sure we all found many creative ways to succeed over the last 20 years of EU compliance careers (for me, almost 30 years). And under the EU MDR, a two-list approach might be a compliant way to go. But the EU MDR's more prescriptive demand for us to state the "precise" identity of the controlled documents seems to be good grounds for caution about the omission of revision levels from the list of controlled documents in a GSPR checklist. Indeed, the fundamental purpose of such increased legislation is so that regulators won't need to endure ferreting through too many peripheral documents/steps when vetting the GSPR conformity. The fundamental goal is for regulators' "easy" identification of GSPR conformity evidence and data.<o:p></o:p>
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I was also thinking that if we achieve the extra redundant list by way of, let's say, an overall global list (like a master list of all controlled documents, some of which overlap with those needed for GSPR conformity, while many of which will be unrelated to GSPR conformity), then my personal preference would be to avoid that too. This is because technical documentation reviewers and the EU MDR in this context are only seeking the "easy" and "precise" identity of the controlled documents demonstrating GSPR conformity. If we force them to slog through a larger repository of documents to identify the ones sought regarding GSPR, then it could trigger objections with respect to the EU MDR's escalated requirement that the GSPR demonstration of conformity (e.g., the GSPR checklist) shall include the "precise" identity of the "controlled" documents. Giving an EU MDR NB a universal list including out-of-scope documents that don't relate to GSPR conformity evidence may lead to an NB nonconformity regarding the technical documentation or other EU MDR requirements. But as mentioned before, there could be variation in the approach to this depending on the NB involved.<o:p></o:p>
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On that note, there could also be variation within the same NB. Specifically, at this time while the NBs are struggling to keep pace and struggling to staff competent technical documentation reviewers, there is more enforcement discretion being employed. But when the NBs catch up, I would view it as a liability if our GSPR checklists identify conformity documents without the revision levels. Accordingly, I again maintain the aforesaid cautionary advisories regarding this topic.<o:p></o:p>
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Again, if we do what we've done for our MDD ER checklists for the last 20 years, then, in my humble opinion, such tactics aren't the best approach for this topic due to the EU MDR's aforesaid escalated detailed requirement demanding that an EU MDR GSPR demonstration of conformity (e.g., the GSPR checklist) shall include the "precise" identity of the "controlled" documents. With the strain on NBs, they are, or will soon be, more sensitive than ever regarding their and the GHTF's intent for "easy" identification of GSPR conformity evidence and data.<o:p></o:p>
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Kevin Randall, ASQ CQA, RAC (U.S., Europe, Canada)
Principal Consultant
Ridgway, CO
United States
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Original Message:
Sent: 16-Feb-2023 13:04
From: Stephanie Grassmann
Subject: GSPR Matrix
Dear Kevin
The Document List is not just required or used for GSPR.
I know of several firms (small to large size companies) proceeding in this manner.
As well as I have submitting Technical Files this way for the last almost 20 years with no deficiencies from notified bodies.
Maybe I am missing your point?
Best Regards,
Stephanie
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Stephanie Grassmann
Founder & Managing Director of MedTechXperts Ltd
Biberstein
Switzerland
Original Message:
Sent: 16-Feb-2023 10:51
From: Kevin Randall
Subject: GSPR Matrix
Maintaining two redundant lists (a separate list with document revision levels, and then also the list without revision levels in the GSPR matrix) wouldn't be sustainable for me. It seems that such an approach would demand even more numerous content updates to keep the two lists' items updated plus keeping one of those list's revision levels updated rather than just updating the revision levels in a single list in the GSPR matrix.
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Kevin Randall, ASQ CQA, RAC (Europe, U.S., Canada)
Principal Consultant
Ridgway, CO
United States
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Original Message:
Sent: 16-Feb-2023 07:02
From: Stephanie Grassmann
Subject: GSPR Matrix
Dear Anon
Recommend that you compile a document list with the current document names with their revision numbers. At the beginning of the GSPR, I would add a sentence referring to the Document List (its document name and with its revision number) - a separate document - and state that this Document List lists the current version of each document listed in the GSPR. In the GSPR, I would recommend to list the document title with out the revision number.
Best Regards,
Stephanie
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Stephanie Grassmann
Founder & Managing Director of MedTechXperts Ltd
Biberstein
Switzerland
Original Message:
Sent: 14-Feb-2023 08:17
From: Anonymous Member
Subject: GSPR Matrix
This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
My product currently has the CE mark according the the MDR. The GSPR matrix that was prepared includes our internal document references (document numbers) demonstrating conformance to each requirement. It also inlcudes the document revisions. I am thinking that it was not appropriate to include the document revisions. Since receiving the CE mark, there have been many changes to these documents, which result in the GSPR no longer reflects current documentation. However, all the changes have been insignificant. My question to the group is whether document revisions are required to be included in the GSPR matrix. If they are, how do you handle the GSPR when document revisions change? Do you update it every time with the new revision number?