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  • 1.  Transfer LM activities

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 10-Oct-2023 09:05
    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous

    Hi

    We are a distributor who wants to become the Legal Manufacturer for the products that we distribute, as the manufacturing site does not want to transition to MDR. (With this change, they will keep manufacturing the products but now for us, as LM)

    As distributors, we do not have a big expertise in regulatory topics and that's why we would like to ask you for some guidance about how to do this change. Apart from building a technical documentation which other steps are involved in terms of regulatory and quality

    Also, how could we do to take advantage of the transition period so we can contiue marketing the products until we become the LM and we transition the products to the MDR?

    Thank you very much in advance for your help



  • 2.  RE: Transfer LM activities

    Posted 10-Oct-2023 10:44

    This is a very broad question that basically asks what, apart from building technical documentation, is required of any manufacturer to comply with the MDR.

    Start by reviewing and establishing a game plan for complying with Article 10.  Raise any more specific questions that arise. Be sure you have the necessary competence and expertise (or hire an expert to assist).

    In terms of taking advantage of the Article 120(3) transitional period regarding existing legacy device MDD/AIMDD certificates, much hinges on the condition that there can be no significant change in design or no significant change in the intended purpose.  But bear in mind that the MDCG has made a blanket statement (see MDCG 2020-3) that no issuing of new MDD/AIMDD certificates, including modified, amended or supplemented certificates, is allowed under MDR Article 120(3).  Consequently, the existing certificate for the subject legacy device may need to remain with the current manufacturer for the remaining duration of the certificate's valid tenure in order to use the Article 120(3) transitional provision.  Indeed, once that certificate is transferred to a new manufacturer, then it would generally be viewed as a modified, amended, or supplemented certificate.

    Yet the MDCG recognizes the need to make such considerations on a case-by-case basis.  Accordingly, consult with the existing Notified Body to see if it would entertain the notion of maintaining the subject device's Article 120(3) transitional status if ownership of the certificate is transferred to a different manufacturer; it's definitely worth a shot to see if the Notified Body might cooperate with that strategy.



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    Kevin Randall, ASQ CQA, RAC (Europe, U.S., Canada)
    Principal Consultant
    Ridgway, CO
    United States
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  • 3.  RE: Transfer LM activities

    Posted 11-Oct-2023 02:32

    Indeed it is possible to separate the role of legal manufacturer from that of the producer of a device. The challenge is that the legal manufacturer must take full responsibility for the device. That also means that the declaration of conformity and the certificate are linked to the legal manufacturer. If that role changes, those document become void. Only the current legal manufacturer can use the extra transitional period from Regulation 2023/607. On top of that, you must make the switch from distributor to legal manufacturer. I consider that a challenge. 

    In the case of only Class I, self-certified, devices, it may be possible to get the documentation ready in a relatively short time (as well as getting the organization ready for that role). Only then, you can start placing these devices on the market under your name as the legal manufacturer.

    In the case of notified body certified devices, the process becomes more complex and time consuming. Keving Randall suggests to try finding an exemption via the current notified body. I would suggest to have a Plan B and a Plan C. Without more information about your organization, I cannot develop those. 



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    Ronald Boumans
    MDR Expert
    Super PRRC
    Netherlands
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  • 4.  RE: Transfer LM activities

    Posted 11-Oct-2023 09:35

    Also Anon, if the subject device is a class I self-declaration product, then be sure to remember that those still must meet substantive requirements such as GSPR conformity, technical documentation, quality management system, post-market surveillance, Article 10 compliance, etc., etc.  Accordingly, even if the subject device is a class I self-declaration device, then be careful not to underestimate the scope of the transfer task.



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    Kevin Randall, ASQ CQA, RAC (Europe, U.S., Canada)
    Principal Consultant
    Ridgway, CO
    United States
    © Copyright 2023 by ComplianceAcuity, Inc. All rights reserved.
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  • 5.  RE: Transfer LM activities

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    Posted 16-Oct-2023 08:59
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    Thank you very much for your reply. Indeed, we consider it a bit challenge, that's why we are very concerned about the change and all the implicantions. We are aware of Article 10 fo the MDR but not sure how to address all the points, especially the ones about PMS, RM.. We know that for certain topics we will nedd to hire someone to help us such as for the CER / PMCF, BER..

    We understand that we have to develop all the procedures related to RM, Change controls and also to involve the current manufacturing site in our QMS

    Our products are class III medical devices, which adds an extra layer of complexity

    Thanks all for your replies




  • 6.  RE: Transfer LM activities

    Posted 16-Oct-2023 09:21

    With a Class III device, the challenges are even bigger. If you want to have a call (free!) to get some understanding of the challenges, just reach out. This may help you understand who you should best hire to help you, and what questions to ask. 

    Reacht out to: ronald@boumansconsulting.com



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    Ronald Boumans
    MDR Expert
    Super PRRC
    Netherlands
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  • 7.  RE: Transfer LM activities

    Posted 11-Oct-2023 05:29

    Hi Anon,

    like Kevin and Ronald already stated taking the step from distributor to legal manufacturer means that you will take full responsibility for the device and need to comply with all respective requirements with MDR Article 10 being a good starting point.

    Since you mention the possiblity of taking advantage of the transition period I assume that you have a device that requires the participation of a notified body. So aside from setting up the quality management system and technical documentation you will need to apply for the respective certification - which makes the task more complicated and adds to the required time. Without experience in this field you will definitely need external help.

    With respect to taking advantage of the transition period: As far as I can see there is no possibility to do this in your situation. In the case of an aquisition or merger it might be possible to change the organization to some degree, but transferring the certificate seems not feasible. Because your supplier does not want to continue the device under MDR they will not be able (and willing) to apply for MDR certification - and that means that May 2024 will probably mark the end of the transition period for this device.

    If you have additional questions, let me know.

    Best regards

    Christoph



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    Christoph Kiesselbach
    Reutlingen
    Germany
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  • 8.  RE: Transfer LM activities

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    Posted 11-Oct-2023 13:12
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    I'm going to take a big step back here from the other replies.  Not to sound snarky, but this is a huge undertaking from both a regulatory and business investment standpoint.  There is a reason the current manufacturer doesn't want to transition to the MDR.  Outside of tech docs, do you understand the full requirements of the EU MDR 2017/745 post-market surveillance activities?  Do you have a qualified PRRC?  Do you have someone qualified to write and update your CER?  Many manufacturers, including your current one (I suspect), who understand the ramifications of these regulations and the huge time and cost commitments required to comply, have opted out of the EU market.