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Poll: UDI creation at your organization

  • 1.  Poll: UDI creation at your organization

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 17-Nov-2022 09:34
    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous

    The creation of UDI's at our organization is a point of contention - no one wants to take ownership of creating it when one is needed. I'm curious with other organizations, which group is responsible for creating new UDI's? (Labeling, Regulatory, Manufacturing, Operations, R&D, ect). 

    I'd like to create a procedure for UDI creation at our organization, listing the group responsible for the creation, but I'd like to have an idea of what other organizations do so that I have an open mind going into this. Right now its like pulling teeth trying to get one created, it takes longer to find someone to create it than to actually create it. (I'd create it myself, but I don't have access at this time). 

    Thank you for the input!


  • 2.  RE: Poll: UDI creation at your organization

    Posted 17-Nov-2022 10:13

    I'm a consultant and, therefore do not create UDIs, but often answer questions about them.

    In my experience, many companies have a regulatory function that is responsible for any submission to a regulatory authority. For the US this includes populating GUDID, submitting MDRs, submitting C&R reports, submitting 510(k)s, etc.

    However, I also tell my clients that the information to use to populate GUDID is a design output.

    The end result is that the information to enter into GUDID comes, primarily from Engineering. The responsibility to populate GUDID (fingers on keyboard) belongs to regulatory.

    On another note, I'm working on a research project to develop statistical methods to identify signals from the MAUDE database. There are  two problems. FDA does not consider the UDI-DI as public information for the MAUDE database. Presumably, one could infer it from the information in AccessGUDID. However, there are many problems with the AccessGUDID data. I infer that companies don't maintain a data dictionary that could be used for MDRs, C&R, GUDID, etc. Perhaps the responsibility lies in separate parts of the organization so the person completing the MDR doesn't know what is in GUDID for that UDI-DI.

    My recommendation is to create a "regulatory" data dictionary to help ensure information consistency across various reporting requirements. Assign the responsibility for all regulatory reporting requirements to the Regulatory Department to create a single point of contact. Other parts of the organization need to contribute information, but don't submit it.



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    Dan O'Leary CQA, CQE
    Swanzey NH
    United States
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  • 3.  RE: Poll: UDI creation at your organization

    Posted 17-Nov-2022 21:44
    Hi Anon, 
    That's a great Question, I've always assumed it was the responsibility of the Regulatory Team to create B-UDI and UDI-DI and UDI- PI might be the responsibility of Engineering.  I'm also trying to figure it out.

    I would love to work with you to figure this out together. Please let me know if we could catch up to complete the task for both of us. 

    Thanks, 
    Vinoda

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    Vinoda Palanisamy
    Senior Regulatory Affairs Specialist
    Dallas TX
    United States
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  • 4.  RE: Poll: UDI creation at your organization

    Posted 18-Nov-2022 06:21

    In my experience I've also seen confusion on this matter, so agree that it's a good question!

    A non-helpful answer is 'it depends' - as it depends on the corporate setup, departments/functions who handle this type of activity, how well they are resourced, your number of products/families/SKUs, where your sites are located and which countries you sell into, etc.

    For more complex situations (medium to larger companies, multiple products/families with a number of SKUs, global locations and sales) I've typically seen a part of the supply chain organization responsible for UDI at the product level (as they may have traditionally been involved with assigning GTINs or equivalent from GS1, for instance, which would still be needed for UDI). Meanwhile, Regulatory would be responsible for coordinating information transfer to the various regulatory bodies (GUDID for US, Eudamed in the EU, etc.) and/or creating regulatory-specific identifiers (B-UDI). Both would need to coordinate with other functions to appropriately implement and document (Quality may own the SOPs and sign off on records, Engineering may need to implement into the design, Manufacturing may need to adapt the printing process, etc.). A cross-functional project team is highly recommended, or at least a process to facilitate such a team for individual programs (even if you may be focused on a single product at the moment); such an established process can help avoid future questions about roles & responsibilities.

    Of course consultants who specialize in UDI implementation also exist to assist with such projects (some of whom post on this board; noting that I am not in that category!) who can take on various responsibilities (including almost all of the above, if a company is open to it). You may also have to consider external parties (CMOs, Authorized Reps, etc.).

    Best of luck!



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    Jonathan Amaya-Hodges
    Director, Technical Services
    Sharon MA
    United States
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  • 5.  RE: Poll: UDI creation at your organization

    Posted 18-Nov-2022 08:58

    Good Day,

    It is the responsibility of Regulatory at my company.  We have an SOP for Unique Device Identification.  We also have an SOP for EUDAMED Registration.  Both of these were created based on a gap analysis we had done to bring our system into compliance with MDR and ensure it was in compliance with FDA GSPR, Health Canada MDR, and ISO 13485:2016.

    Prior to the gap, we were using GS1 and entering our products in GUDID, but didn't have a written procedure.

    Best regards,



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    D Michelle Williams
    VP - Operations
    United States
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  • 6.  RE: Poll: UDI creation at your organization

    Posted 18-Nov-2022 09:46
    In my company, the GTIN itself and the UDI for the labels is generated by Engineering, with oversight/support from Regulatory. During the implementation step, the database entry (GS1, GUDID, eventually EUDAMED) is handled by Document Control.

    It sounds like there are many ways to arrange this process though.

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    Kimberly Chan
    Lansdale PA
    United States
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  • 7.  RE: Poll: UDI creation at your organization

    Posted 18-Nov-2022 10:28
    Good point, Kim.  I think you are on point.

    I think it has a lot to do with the size of the company.  We do not have a Document Control department.

    Regards,

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    D Michelle Williams
    VP - Operations
    United States
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  • 8.  RE: Poll: UDI creation at your organization

    Posted 18-Nov-2022 12:32
    Regulatory creates/provides the UDI to other teams (such as marketing) and is responsible for managing and communicating the information to databases such as GS1, GUDID, etc.

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    Stacey Benser
    Senior Quality/Regulatory Manager
    York PA
    United States
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  • 9.  RE: Poll: UDI creation at your organization

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 18-Nov-2022 12:33
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    I worked at two companies where it was the responsibility of Quality. In one of these companies, Labeling was in the Quality group. In the other, we didn't have a separate Labeling group. In both companies, Quality was responsible for US MDRs and international vigilance, and Regulatory did marketing submissions like Technical Files and 510(k). Not to belittle what can still be challenging, but the concept was that Quality did more frequent and sometimes rote external database submissions related to ongoing compliance, and Regulatory did more complex large-scale projects related to marketing approval of new and changed products. As others described, there are companies where all external filings and communications are done by Regulatory. So I think the answer depends on how your company deals with external communications.


  • 10.  RE: Poll: UDI creation at your organization

    Posted 18-Nov-2022 15:24
    Regulatory is responsible for all activities related to UDI at our company.  They typically have the most knowledge about the regulatory requirements related to UDI, GUDID and labeling.

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    Alyssa Roelli
    Senior Regulatory Projects Manager
    Milwaukee WI
    United States
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  • 11.  RE: Poll: UDI creation at your organization

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 21-Nov-2022 08:24
    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous

    My company had a similar kerfuffle trying to decide who should own UDI. It touches most groups, but isn't central to any of them.

    At one point it was assigned to Finance. Don't ask me why. And they nearly canceled our GS1 account because they didn't know what it was for.

    Eventually we got pragmatic and divided responsibilities for efficiency. The Information group creates a large batch of unassigned UDIs and hands them off to the Document Control group. They assign the UDIs one at a time on request to the Design Engineering group and get them entered in the ERP system. The Regulatory group takes responsibility for propagating them from there into the regulatory databases.